https://gingerwitch.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] gingerwitch.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] acciobrick2024-05-15 12:27 am

Hinges, baby! Or: the Provisional Potions Classroom MOC... Part Two: the Official Set 76431

A REVIEW and MOC (My Own Creation) in three parts...
This is the second in a three part series reviewing the official lego Harry Potter summer 2024 wave's 76431 Hogwarts Castle: Potions Class and introducing gingerwitch's (MOC) modification thereof.


Today we'll look at the official lego set, 76431 Hogwarts Castle: Potions Class, and establish how many of those key features from the canonical classroom in the films have been represented and just how well at that. I'll endeavour to grade in a fashion somewhere between Snape and Sluggy. 😘

As the floor plan is a little odd, and frankly doesn't make sense given the number of students, the majority of the concept and accompanying art, or far too many scenes... in an attempt to minimise confusion, we'll start with the floor plan from the last post, Slughorn's sixth year N.E.W.T.s Potions Classroom from Half Blood Prince. (Which he then... what? Transfigures for the first through fifth years? πŸ€” Bygones. This is what the set tour gives us to work with, so we'll run with it.)

Here's the floor plan, seen through a "fish-eye" lens:
Harry Potter Potions Classroom WB studio tour floor plan of the classroom
from Karen Roe's 'The Making of Harry Potter 29-05-2012'


One of the better renditions of the classroom as a toy is the mini-funko pops display. Although it could do with more (any) gilding, it really captures the floor plan and other main features:

gingerbred's livejournal mini funko pops harry potter potions classroom


That's obviously less true of the new lego version. (For reference, here once more the model of the original set that I built on mecabricks, complete with the substitutions I was forced to make.)

gingerwitch's mecabricks digital build of summer 2024 wave lego Harry Potter 76431 Hogwarts Castle Potions Class

But here's why that smaller version isn't a bad thing, though, and up next we'll see what we can easily do to zhuzh it up.

Now I'm one of the first to point out that most of us wouldn't actually want to pay for the build we often envision, nor can most of us afford the space that that scale would require, certainly not if it's carried out for the entire castle. And while I appreciate the occasional aspirational set (even when it's clearly out of my reach), if anything, it's good when the sets, by and large, are designed more realistically. So let's see what the official lego set 76431 gets right and wrong about the room, and how that stacks up against the previous post's list of things to include...

1) The ingredients... Och. I'll start by saying I think the Potions Ingredients bench is a great idea for a play feature and reminds me of the lego Harry Potter video game so: Outstanding there, the problem as such lies with the ingredients as a feature of the room. To that end, there are only four cylinders built into a piece of wall (immediately to the left of the brick built cauldron above) that remain unseen from many angles. The experiments from the Professor's table have moved to a narrow bench under one of the windows, doing double duty by filling in visually as more ingredients; I'll venture they're Amortentia and the inverted cone Felix Felicis. And the remainder of the ingredients, as such, is represented via a sticker. I do like their sticker art, but still... I appreciate there is a great lack of wall space, nevertheless, considering how prevalent the ingredients are in the classroom film set and even in the lego HP video game's Potions classroom, I have to mark them poorly here. Troll? Doesn't quite seem fair. Dreadful also feels too harsh, but I don't think we can go above a Poor on this one. Plus in an ideal world, we should have seen a new variant of 1x1 'cupcake topper' / 'poop' mould that represents those iconic ingredients lids from the top shelf.

We have plenty of gilded arches, mostly in more of a window format, but as a representational design form, I'll say they ticked boxes 2) (ceiling) and 3) (window arches). Check check. The ingredients jar covers (1x1 rounds), the goblet, and the portraits add pops of pearl gold to help convey that sense of generous gilding, so here again: success. Exceeds Expectations.

As for 4) the rounded part of the room just doesn't exist, the couple of hinges only allow you to hint at it if your specs require an Oculus Reparo!, you squint heavily and view it from a very narrow angle, and even the instructor's round table has been replaced with a square lectern. That latter we should probably let go of, as space is at a premium and including a table won't be worth the hit to the budget. The former, on the other hand, really does want some attention, so let's add that to the to do list. Poor, but only because of the hinges we have. (Deep down a curmudgeonly little voice keeps demanding 'troll!', but I promised not to grade too Snapely.)

5) The cast iron stove yields way to the cauldron from the video game. Perfect. Genius. Outstanding. The only question I have there is why it's brick built instead of using the large cauldron piece which appears in one of the Disney sets this summer, so it's clearly still kicking around? I'm going to guess a) piece count πŸ˜• b) budget and less obviously, but more interestingly, I'd bet because c) it's closer in form to the stove this way, and could be seen as a compromise. (Although in that case a closed option might have been nice and provided added storage space for loose ingredients.) Even the stirring rod (and I love that it mounts on the wall so that it's less likely to get lost) doubles visually as the exhaust / chimney / stove pipe for the stove (cauldron), although I might have gone for black here to emphasise that despite the lack of contrast that would give rise to when it's in use in the cauldron. Either way, it works, and it's fun, although I still think the large cauldron would have looked better, hang the stove reference. Commit. Go all in on the game.

lego Harry Potter video game potions classroom Snape brewing

6) The straight bit of entrance wall and the sole floor / base are both reminiscent of those rectangular sections to the front of the room. The 7) rectangular workbenches add to that as well. While lego obviously lends itself to rectilinear forms inherently, and it might seem something of a gimme, it's safe to say I certainly don't feel cheated of boxy shapes here. πŸ˜‰ The build needs to be both round (see 4) above) and square, and they've suitably nailed the square. They deserve an Exceeds Expectations on those aspects of the design. (Despite the fact that I expect no less from them. It's frightfully unfair to deduct points for a very good track record. 😘)

8) I'll venture we've forfeited the miscellaneous massive bottles for the large mix-your-own-potions cauldron and ingredients bench, but they are both such good play features that I don't even mind. Canon be hanged! πŸ˜† Seriously, between the cauldron and the blackboard right above it to tell you how to mix a potion, it screams lego Harry Potter video game. (I wish I had the sticker to show you.) Anyway, the designer earns a smooch. 😘

lego Harry Potter video game potions classroom Snape with scroll explaining purpose of strength draught
screencaps were taken from gamerwalkthroughs UK's video of the game

It's difficult to say what grade to give the set as a whole, as it's largely dependent on your personal priorities. I need the rounded bit that doubles as Snape's office in Chamber of Secrets. When it's missing, the room feels incomplete. On the other hand, I don't mind not achieving the proper 'Slughorn footprint' as it's non-trivially daft to begin with. As is not uncommon in films, that was a room that felt cool but made no sense. How would a sensibly cautious Professor properly patrol the potion making process in progress when substantial parts of the classroom were designed to be out of his line of sight? Sluggy might let it go, Snape would never, so no, no point deductions there. But the absence of the rows and rows of ingredients... Tsk. I don't think people really need others telling them how to feel. After everything we've covered, you know if you like it or not. Go with your gut and refuse to be swayed.

For my part, I like it. I'll buy it. But I could like it more. To that end, it doesn't require too many changes to get where I'd like it to be. Tomorrow we'll take a look at just that.


Up next: the finale, Part Three, the eagerly awaited gingerwitch's MOC of the Potions Classroom.

[identity profile] gelsey.livejournal.com 2024-05-15 02:24 am (UTC)(link)

Obviously gonna have to hit you up if I ever do a box room of the classroom and Snape's office. I was hoping to do his office someday :)

[identity profile] erexen.livejournal.com 2024-05-15 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
Ginger & I talked about MOCing Snape's office before, and his personal rooms, could you even imagine creatin g all of his specimen jars, and his library???

[identity profile] gelsey.livejournal.com 2024-05-15 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)

It's the specimen jars and lab equipment I'm especially excited about. I work with laboratory glassware (manufacturing) so I actually have a few things that would be discarded that I can use haha. And the ingredients closet! And and and. I'm currently running a small experiment with dried flowers and resin, to see if I can make something happen that I want. Flowers are still drying in silica sand right now. I need to find a good pair of tweezers or forceps for the resin phase, then it'll just take time to see if I get it right and they'll stay preserved in the way I see in my head.

[identity profile] erexen.livejournal.com 2024-05-15 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Ohhh Squuueeeeee! I have tried for years to find lego sized actual glass containers, no luck yet. I've had visions of ideas for specimen jars, plus I can sculpt in miniscule scale, so planned to make tiny creatures to "float" in resin. I just had a cool idea on how to make movie set style containers... not sure if it will work, and it wouldn't be actual glass... but? I Loved Snape's office in HP WU.

Instead of a dollhouse, could you imagine a miniature dungeon? Class room, ingredients closet, office & his quarters, though we don't have a visual of his quarters to work from, I don't think?

My best crafting friends are my variety of needle nosed tweezers & pliers. My biggest creative love is sculpting tiny things, thus my adoration of building legos, building tiny structures.

Are you using teeny weeny flowers from weeds? I have itty bitty purple & gold flowers out here.

Also love the idea of making lego sized actual books to fill his library.
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[identity profile] gelsey.livejournal.com 2024-05-15 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)

I can pull out what I have and share :) I don't have baby flasks but I have 2ml vials of various sorts, as well as some bigger. I need to see if I can find the discards that can be mini test tubes, I'm hoping they didn't get discarded (I can get more but I don't work quality anymore so gotta go out of my way).

See that is sort of what I was thinking. You can buy "box rooms" and I was thinking of doing the classroom and office at a minimum, set them side by side. I try not to plan too far forward but I've always thought it would be cool.

I am, there's lots of teeny tiny weeds here, and I want to see if I can preserve them to use as actual flowers. Even some tiny foliage. I'm not sure it'll work yet but I play in the garden a lot and thought it could be worth a try. I should check on the drying process and see how it's going. I have to wait for a nicer day to do the resin as I don't want to do it inside where the buns can smell it.

I've seen some really cool tiny books on Facebook some with actual written stuff in them. There's a few awesome miniatures groups I follow and am trying to learn from. What scale is Lego? 1:24?

[identity profile] gelsey.livejournal.com 2024-05-15 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)

Gotcha! I wasn't sure if there was a scale or not. Sounds confusing!

Wowsers those are awesome! That horse is simply gorgeous!

[identity profile] gelsey.livejournal.com 2024-05-15 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)

Makes sense. I'm struggling making my stupid sink I've been working on. I'm contemplating letting it be slightly uneven. I put it away for now. I might need to make a new template but I'm not sure that'll keep me from messing it up. Too far in my head maybe? I'm too much of a perfectionist but otoh I'm determined, lol

She's incredibly talented. Like I told her, clay doesn't seem to like me so far. And yes you can almost always tell a real horse person from stuff like that.

[identity profile] erexen.livejournal.com 2024-05-16 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
It would be so much fun to be able to create realistic items for the boxes. I plucked some small purple flowers today, have to see if they maintain color & shape well when dried out. Yeah, chemical smells are not good for sensitive noses.

I'm almost never on FB, but the miniature stuff sounds intriguing? I've discovered paper fine enough to make te tiny books, and I Used to be able to write as small as the fine print on variety of things. I'd like to make a Potions book, plus some other possible curriculum books, maybe even try to do a periodical?

[identity profile] gelsey.livejournal.com 2024-05-16 01:39 am (UTC)(link)

I pulled out the flowers in the silica sand and they have indeed kept their color but are definitely fragile. I think I need to try a few more things for the tiniest flowers to keep their shape better. If it doesn't get too wet tomorrow I'll pull out the resin, unless work gets too busy.

The two I'm in that I like are "miniatures and mini things" and "dollhouse miniatures made from everyday things"
Some people are so hella talented and some people post tutorials or ask for ideas for things. There's some good stuff there.

[identity profile] erexen.livejournal.com 2024-05-16 03:22 am (UTC)(link)

I once read something about spraying something onto the delicate flowers to strengthen them for resin placement... but can't remember?

[identity profile] gelsey.livejournal.com 2024-05-16 10:16 am (UTC)(link)

I'll do more research :)

[identity profile] erexen.livejournal.com 2024-05-16 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)

Some kind of resin spray that doesn't cause resin to color or become opaque. The made from everyday things group suspended my profile???

[identity profile] gelsey.livejournal.com 2024-05-16 05:01 pm (UTC)(link)

That's seriously weird. I've never had an issue unless you count it can take like, a day to have a post approved sometimes.

[identity profile] erexen.livejournal.com 2024-05-17 03:58 am (UTC)(link)

I didn't try to post, just wanted to check out some of the posts?

[identity profile] erexen.livejournal.com 2024-05-17 04:27 am (UTC)(link)

This is what it says:


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[identity profile] erexen.livejournal.com 2024-05-17 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)

No idea on vacationing, haven't taken a vacation in almost 30 years. 🀣 Last one was to take our preschool kids to Disneyland in CA. It could be though, I'm just terribly out of that loop. *raises hand in the meeting... I may be a workaholic*

[identity profile] erexen.livejournal.com 2024-05-18 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)

And my totally non-tech brain just said... okaaaaay. Sadly none of that intelligence was absorbed, but I'll just be patient and wait for it. No clue what bots are or how AI can possibly be a staff, or an autoresponder, as opposed to a first responder? But no worries, my brain just isn't up for the brilliance that Ginger's is.

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I asked to join those groups, hope they accept me. Thanks for sharing!

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